Just to build on that, I think what I hear a lot of people say inside my membership, is people saying like this is just, it’s too big, it’s too much, it’s going to open the floodgates, I shouldn’t feel this way, I should be over it by now. So, we just kind of avoid talking about it. And when we’re experiencing something other than happiness that is undesirable or a problem to be fixed. And so, the natural extension of that is that grief is a problem. Krista: I think it’s largely because we are so bought into this idea that feelings are problems. So, the first is like, we just don’t talk about grief. Rachel: Okay, so let’s pull these two things apart. They measure themselves against these stages.Īnd, you know, they ask themselves, questions that imply that their experience is wrong or bad, because it’s different than what they’ve heard the five stages of grief should be like. And people have taken that and made it something that, you know, has, in their minds, these very finite stages. You know, it was originally a study about hospice patients coming to terms with their own mortality, not what it’s like to lose someone you love. Right? It’s one of many theories, it’s very misrepresented. Most people only know about the five stages of grief. And then, when we do talk about it, a lot of what we talk about isn’t actually accurate, you know, or it’s outdated. So, it should be no shock that then, when we have our own grief experience, you know, we are like woefully unprepared. It’s the elephant in the room, it’s not really something that we proactively have conversations about. Right? Like we just kind of pretend it doesn’t happen. And honestly, it’s interviews like this, that will make us suck less, since I’m always so excited to talk about it, right? So, we suck at it for one, because we don’t even talk about it. Like culturally, we just suck at grief.” So, tell us more about that. You were saying, kind of, “We suck at grief. And so, one of the things I remember you said initially… That initially I was like, oh, I’ve got to know more about this. And even the very first time I talked with you about it, you really kind of blew my mind in so many ways. I could see how transformative it was for the people the that you helped inside the membership. Yeah, I know, people aren’t usually as enthusiastic as you are to talk about grief. I know it’s going to be amazing because Krista is amazing. And so, I really encourage everyone to just listen to this episode today. Everyone that I know, myself included, struggles because we are not given a roadmap for what to do with it. I really encourage you to listen to this episode. You know, I’m not, you know, I’m just drinking too much, because I just don’t want like the good times to end. Even if you’re listening right now, and you think like, oh, that’s not my issue. Because I think that this is such an important topic and something really everyone needs. We had an amazing, amazing class that she led and conversation, and I just wanted to bring her to all of you as well. But people just feeling like, if I’m not drinking in the evening then I’m sitting with my grief, and like, how can you possibly ask me to do that? And that seems overwhelming and unbearable, and people really feeling stuck.Īnd so, she came into the membership. It can be grief about a marriage that ended. But I have all of this grief.Īnd that grief can be, I, you know, lost a loved one. People feeling like, I want to change my relationship with alcohol. And I actually brought her in to my membership a couple months ago, before I had my baby, because this is a topic that just keeps coming up inside Take a Break.
How we kind of, as a community, culturally, individually, process and deal with grief and treat grief. It is so, I think, often overlooked as well. She is a widow and a mom, and she is just an all-around amazing person who I love talking to.
I’m so excited to bring your work to the listeners of Take a Break. But I’m so excited that you’re here on the podcast. Rachel: We were just chatting, before I started recording, and I was like, we could just chat all day. We have a special guest here today, Krista St-Germain. No labels, no judgment, just practical tools to take control of your desire and stop worrying about your drinking. We’re challenging conventional wisdom about why people drink and why it can be hard to resist temptation. Whether you want to drink less or stop drinking, this podcast will help you change the habit from the inside out. You are listening to the Take A Break podcast with Rachel Hart, Episode 295.
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